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and another bite out of apple. key questions about the future of this company that many thought was invincible. and another, a sudden big move for the stock of google before self-correcting. that was the company involved here. what happened and how you can get hurt. first to sue. >> hi. welcome back. we missed you. great to have you back here. we start power lunch with a manpower problem at the nation's airports. politicians are not rising above and neither are many of the air travelers out there. we begin with hampton pierceon. >> here at reagan national, the number of flights being delayed has been increasing throughout the day. a snapshot looking at the schedule board shows 30 minutes to one hour delays. delays due to furloughs of controller controllers business and leez travelers we talk to today think the government ought to have come up with a better solution. r. >> i think they should have more air traffic controllers because it helps with our safety. >> i have tsa approved. i travel constantly. >> the major
and another bite out of apple. key questions about the future of this company that many thought was invincible. and another, a sudden big move for the stock of google before self-correcting. that was the company involved here. what happened and how you can get hurt. first to sue. >> hi. welcome back. we missed you. great to have you back here. we start power lunch with a manpower problem at the nation's airports. politicians are not rising above and neither are many of the air travelers...
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. >> thank you very much from bonds to apple. apple no longer the biggest company in the world. that goes back to exxon. you had chip maker's serious logic. serious logic the only thing dragging apple down today? >> brian, good afternoon. i think sit a bit of a double whamy today. i think it's a combination of those two things. >> apple has lost over 40% of its market cap right? at what point does it become a value proposition? >> on the one hand normally you would by. i think you need to really see the bar reset on earnings estimates. you have got believe they can continue to innovate some of the newer competitors there. >> do you believe they can? >> well, you know, the proof's going to be in the pudding. clearly they have the opportunity to do that. it will be abundant on the software application side. >> you heard they are breaking news that they are coming out with i pudding? clearly they're not. although if they did maybe it would work. as a user of i cloud i can say that i have had a lot of problems with it. apple seems to have had a string of issues. little bits here and
. >> thank you very much from bonds to apple. apple no longer the biggest company in the world. that goes back to exxon. you had chip maker's serious logic. serious logic the only thing dragging apple down today? >> brian, good afternoon. i think sit a bit of a double whamy today. i think it's a combination of those two things. >> apple has lost over 40% of its market cap right? at what point does it become a value proposition? >> on the one hand normally you would by. i...
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. >> i've got the apple numbers. >> what are the apple numbers, jon? >> the revenue for this quarter is actually coming in above expectations at $43.6 billion, eps, $10.09. guidance, though, disappointing, as gene indicated. he was expecting at the midpoint they were guying to is $34.5 billion and the gross margin, 36 to 37%, which is a little bit below where wall street was looking, from what i have seen, maria. i'll go back through and take a look at the units as well. looks like iphones did 37.4 million units, ipads did 19.5 million units. both of those, pretty strong based on the range where we were looking, as far as what wall street was expecting. i'll have mac units and those things in just a moment. >> jon, you keep looking through those numbers. thank you for that quick flash on apple for us. so, we've got the numbers. the actual earnings and revenues, above expectations, but the guidance, as you indicated, gene, right on the money, it is disappointing. you were in the middle of a thought there, james. please continue your thought and any chan
. >> i've got the apple numbers. >> what are the apple numbers, jon? >> the revenue for this quarter is actually coming in above expectations at $43.6 billion, eps, $10.09. guidance, though, disappointing, as gene indicated. he was expecting at the midpoint they were guying to is $34.5 billion and the gross margin, 36 to 37%, which is a little bit below where wall street was looking, from what i have seen, maria. i'll go back through and take a look at the units as well. looks...
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that got so high on apple? >> i guess the real risk of self-incrimination i'm going to go ahead and say wall street expectations. i mean, the company has done a fantastic job over the last decade with their product portfolio. and they've really come to dominate a couple markets. tablets, obviously, and smartphones as well. i think the biggest problem is that they've taken all the profits that are available there. and there just isn't room to grow once the market is saturated. >> bill, what do you nithink is going on? from the outside it would appear one of the knocks on apple right now is t innovation is more incremental than transformational. steve jobs is gone. should expectations be coming down anyway for this company? >> i think you're right, bill, the company has been a victim of its own success. they beat wall street expectations for over 30 quarters. i think lulled us all into believing that would extend forever. think about the stock at $700 in the fall. people were starting to bake in apple tv estimate
that got so high on apple? >> i guess the real risk of self-incrimination i'm going to go ahead and say wall street expectations. i mean, the company has done a fantastic job over the last decade with their product portfolio. and they've really come to dominate a couple markets. tablets, obviously, and smartphones as well. i think the biggest problem is that they've taken all the profits that are available there. and there just isn't room to grow once the market is saturated. >>...
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so i think two things on apple. on the positive side, they did a very significant return of cash to shareholders at the very high end, i think of where investors were hoping. and all else being equal, that was a positive. on the flip side, there was evidence of gross margin pressure in the quarter. they were down sequentially, and the company guided for gross margins to go down again sequentially next quarter. and this is worrisome, because apple is at the part of its product cycles where it's introduced new products where typically gross margins should be improving. so to see margins down, even adjusting for mixed effects, we believe iphone margins were down in the quarter, is worrisome. and it points to, you know, a mix shift to lower models within apple's lineup, which generally have lower margins. and, you know, ultimately, micros margins numbers came down and my estimates came down and my price target came down commensurately. >> but your rating remains outperform, right? you're still telling people you think i
so i think two things on apple. on the positive side, they did a very significant return of cash to shareholders at the very high end, i think of where investors were hoping. and all else being equal, that was a positive. on the flip side, there was evidence of gross margin pressure in the quarter. they were down sequentially, and the company guided for gross margins to go down again sequentially next quarter. and this is worrisome, because apple is at the part of its product cycles where it's...
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. >> and then, how about apple? hovering around $400 a share, failing to impress shareholders with t earnings last night. but is wall street just overreacting to what is still a very profitable, strong company? >> tim cook admits, they are a mature technology company. doesn't make them a bad company, though, right? >> but does it make them valued at 700? >> that's the question. >> just how big a threat are the hacks like we saw at that fake ap tweet yesterday to the market's integrity. cfte commissioner bart shulton weighs in on that. he wrote an op-ed piece today and we'll get his comments, coming up. >> the dow jones industrial average down just a fraction. been a negative day all day, but we are off of the worst levels, 14,712, last trade of the blue chip average. nasdaq looks like this, highest level of the day. in positive territory, keeping in positive territory with a gain of about seven points but a quarter of a percent. s&p 500 looks like this, similar chart pattern as the nasdaq, where it too hovers a to t
. >> and then, how about apple? hovering around $400 a share, failing to impress shareholders with t earnings last night. but is wall street just overreacting to what is still a very profitable, strong company? >> tim cook admits, they are a mature technology company. doesn't make them a bad company, though, right? >> but does it make them valued at 700? >> that's the question. >> just how big a threat are the hacks like we saw at that fake ap tweet yesterday to...
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apples to apples comparison, melissa. the big theme park companies that are comparable are really subsidiaries of disney or in the case of, you know, universal, of course, subsidiary of comcast. so there's really not a direct comparable. the closest would be like you said six flags and cedar fair. compared to them, the valuation is a little bit rich. you do have to adjust, of course, for the debt as jean said, there is this 1.8 billion in debt. we did hear about that price about 20 minutes ago, at $27. we understand it could have sold more. but they really do want this thing to pop. blackstone has an interest, of course, in selling additional shares at a high price and the follow on offering and they do have to liquidate their shares over time. >> the bottom line is that you don't recommend it. why do you think there's such a strong investor appetite for this one given the uncertainty in the economy? is it a dearth of similar offerings like this? >> yes, what we're hearing essentially, in this case, it's actually a retail
apples to apples comparison, melissa. the big theme park companies that are comparable are really subsidiaries of disney or in the case of, you know, universal, of course, subsidiary of comcast. so there's really not a direct comparable. the closest would be like you said six flags and cedar fair. compared to them, the valuation is a little bit rich. you do have to adjust, of course, for the debt as jean said, there is this 1.8 billion in debt. we did hear about that price about 20 minutes ago,...
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that creates opportunity, because when you have that -- >> opportunities for apple. >> to get into apple. cuts stocks like that. when you have a change in ownership, that's significant. it creates a wonderful opportunity. because you've got a big group leaving, a big group coming in. >> ann abigail, let me go to you. you're quite pessimistic. we welcome you on the show. you have been ae a pessimist. but things have been more optimistic. you're looking for big, big decline. i want you to talk about that. i want you to tell our viewers why you think we're really headed for a problem. >> well, the reason that i -- my work starts with the technical. so we have seen a strong rally out of november. nearly 20% move up. but it's bearish. the buyers are becoming less certain up here. and this really mimics what we have seen in the first and second quarter of 2012 and 2011, quite frankly, where we have this competing battle between not so great fundamentals and then the fed liquidity. that doesn't tend to breed trust. in fact, i would say it probably swings things the other way. so even though buy
that creates opportunity, because when you have that -- >> opportunities for apple. >> to get into apple. cuts stocks like that. when you have a change in ownership, that's significant. it creates a wonderful opportunity. because you've got a big group leaving, a big group coming in. >> ann abigail, let me go to you. you're quite pessimistic. we welcome you on the show. you have been ae a pessimist. but things have been more optimistic. you're looking for big, big decline. i...
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now with jobs gone, apple watchers wonder if others will think twice before going to work for apple with steve jobs no longer there. given its very large percentage of the
now with jobs gone, apple watchers wonder if others will think twice before going to work for apple with steve jobs no longer there. given its very large percentage of the
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gene, why don't we start with apple. this has been an incredible run up and then an incredible drop. below $400. is this somewhere you saw the stock going? >> no way. this is -- we thought there was a floor at 450, so this is a lot lower than we thought it was going to go. >> and at this point, now that it has reached 400 at least in the intra day trade, does that worry you that there is still more room to decline or do you think at this point it's stabilized? >> we think there's an opportunity here. the street numbers still need to get reset. we're 10% below the street for the june quarter. i think once these estimates get reset, that's the point where investors are going to start to get interesting. the southside still hasn't taken those nebs down. that's the real challenge here. >> you thought 450 was the bottom at 455 or at -- when did you make that prediction sflp. >> yeah. it was about three weeks ago. we basically took our numbers down. >> so when it was at 750, you thought the bottom was 700. when it was 7 hup, y
gene, why don't we start with apple. this has been an incredible run up and then an incredible drop. below $400. is this somewhere you saw the stock going? >> no way. this is -- we thought there was a floor at 450, so this is a lot lower than we thought it was going to go. >> and at this point, now that it has reached 400 at least in the intra day trade, does that worry you that there is still more room to decline or do you think at this point it's stabilized? >> we think...
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i think apple -- i have apple products. i love them. i think apple is doing a great job, but at the same time in this, this is a stock market and this is a sheer, difficult, harsh, judging machine that is the stock market, and i think tim cook is making a great product. apple's making a great product, but we already have one and we already have a lot of the stock and we don't want as much. am i being harsh? i'm saying the analyst community is harsh. now, procter & gamble, i know it's not what everybody wanted today, but do you remember the open rebellion of procter & gamble at 63 and mcdonald's said you know what? let's blow the darn thing up and give what the analysts want and the stock goes from 63 to 80 and now it will pull back a little today and it's had a remarkable run and that was a guy saying i have to blow it up. as strange as it is. procter is a great company and apple say great company. you have to blow it up and take a new direction. >> we'll talk more about procter and some of the problems in beauty and their guidance this
i think apple -- i have apple products. i love them. i think apple is doing a great job, but at the same time in this, this is a stock market and this is a sheer, difficult, harsh, judging machine that is the stock market, and i think tim cook is making a great product. apple's making a great product, but we already have one and we already have a lot of the stock and we don't want as much. am i being harsh? i'm saying the analyst community is harsh. now, procter & gamble, i know it's not...
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. >>> shares of apple posting the second largest weekly decline in 2 1/2 years, down more that 9 percent. shares are down 45% from hitting the all-time high in september, marking a loss of more than $294 billion in fact cap. >>> ibm is trading down more 8%, marking big blue's largest drop in eight years after its quarterly earnings missed expectations on both the top and bottom lines. more business headlines in the next hour, but for now, maria, back to you. >> courtney, thank you. watertown, massachusetts, is where the manhunt took place today. we're joined now by mike driscoll. mike, thank you for calling in. what can you tell us about the region right now? >> well, again, as everything, we're still in a shelter in place. they did that earlier this morning, on or about, a little before 5:00, the decision was made to, number one priority is the safety of our residents and the residents of the commonwealth. >> at this point, we know that the area is in lockdown mode. the faa, saying there is a no fly zone over watertown. we know that amtrak has been suspended indefinitely. so, do we know
. >>> shares of apple posting the second largest weekly decline in 2 1/2 years, down more that 9 percent. shares are down 45% from hitting the all-time high in september, marking a loss of more than $294 billion in fact cap. >>> ibm is trading down more 8%, marking big blue's largest drop in eight years after its quarterly earnings missed expectations on both the top and bottom lines. more business headlines in the next hour, but for now, maria, back to you. >> courtney,...
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let me mention apple very quickly. the hope here is for a special dividend, increase the dividend to over a 3% yield and start with the big buyback. that's the big hope there. nobody's expecting them to blow the cover off of any of these numbers and all of them have been coming down. >> guys, back to you. >> watching microsoft continue to gain now up 4.5% and let's head over to the nasdaq which partly is a result of that is outperforming, sema moti and it's back above the 52-day moving average. investors are slightly on edge ahead of the the tech earnings and all eyes on apple as bob was mentioning. a lot of conflicting calls from analysts ahead of its earnings report tomorrow. analysts focused on sales of its iphone and any clarity around its capital allocation strategy. bbc partners this morning upgrading the stock to buy. communication players also reporting this week. isi group reporting that broadcom, xilinx and lacked the right combination of favorable setup and strong, foreign ministerial support to expect event
let me mention apple very quickly. the hope here is for a special dividend, increase the dividend to over a 3% yield and start with the big buyback. that's the big hope there. nobody's expecting them to blow the cover off of any of these numbers and all of them have been coming down. >> guys, back to you. >> watching microsoft continue to gain now up 4.5% and let's head over to the nasdaq which partly is a result of that is outperforming, sema moti and it's back above the 52-day...
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apple did fall below that $400 mark. it did knock down stocks across the globe, particularly in asia. its suppliers and tech stocks generally seen as exposed to the country's weakness after it was warned that revenue for that cup wasn't going to be that strong thanks to its one big customer, i.e., apple. >>> the ftse cnbc global 300 just a little lower on the day. we'll look at european markets for that. we are rebounding a little bit after yesterday's weak session. the xetra dax downing 0.6%. that's about a quarter of the move that we saw yesterday. indeed, eegan jones did come out and downgrade moody's in its annual statement reiterating the outlook for that country. the ftse 100, ftse mib are adding better than 0.8% for italy which is going through the process of selecting its next president. there is hope that at least this will help keep the country on track. moving to the bond's space span was just out with an auction. we saw healthy demand, low themes continue for the economy generally speaking in that it hasn't h
apple did fall below that $400 mark. it did knock down stocks across the globe, particularly in asia. its suppliers and tech stocks generally seen as exposed to the country's weakness after it was warned that revenue for that cup wasn't going to be that strong thanks to its one big customer, i.e., apple. >>> the ftse cnbc global 300 just a little lower on the day. we'll look at european markets for that. we are rebounding a little bit after yesterday's weak session. the xetra dax...
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we need to see -- you know -- apple's become those people in the apple ad, those weird apple ad at the super bowl and samsung's come along with this hammer and broke -- they're all apple executives and you need to see apple come up and say, you what? we have it. we have the holy grail which is a combination of this thing that you need and that thing you need. we'll focus the numbers and we'll focus on texas instruments. is it a numbers story? is apple just another stock and if it's another stock then maybe you should get a nine multiple and go higher, but i would like to see, look, if mcdonald's can come out with killer products, apple -- are they both technology companies? is that where we are right now? >> apple has come out with incredible products. amazing products that have changed the world. >> that was the old days and the yankees used to be -- >> the ipad is only three years old, man. come on, give them a break. >> no. the market won't give them a break. i like the product, but who am i? >> that's complicated. >> it was not a rhetorical -- you know, we're not trying to figure o
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it's just -- people love their apple, they hate their apple and they have feelings about apple. >> i love that light saber sound effect. let's get to the economics calendar, thank you very much. here is today's calendar. and it is very housing focused. at 9:00 eastern, you get the fhfa house price index. an hour later, march new home sales. they're expected to rise by 0.7%. we'll watch the home builders like lenar, etcetera, on those. also at 10:00 eastern, is the richmond fed survey. becky talked about some stocks. we're hitting on dupont. let's check on the broader markets. oil down about 0.9%. 88.39. brent crude down a little more, down 1%. rbob gasoline, because, really, you don't care about gasolioil. you care about gasoline, right? >> it's come down significantly. >> yeah, it has, which is good because that may counteract the effects of the payroll tax high. what about gold? let's check the commodities like gold, the ten-year. down about 7%. 7 bucks to $1414. there's been a bit of a move in sort of the euro. we want to keep an eye on that. there's your currency chart here in th
it's just -- people love their apple, they hate their apple and they have feelings about apple. >> i love that light saber sound effect. let's get to the economics calendar, thank you very much. here is today's calendar. and it is very housing focused. at 9:00 eastern, you get the fhfa house price index. an hour later, march new home sales. they're expected to rise by 0.7%. we'll watch the home builders like lenar, etcetera, on those. also at 10:00 eastern, is the richmond fed survey....
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apple will need to innovate. we're in that you got to believe me phase and now we're talking about a time line of the fall. we got support on the dividend and buyback but gross margins and innovation will be key. >> you thought that you would hear about new products even sooner than the fall? >> it was possible that you might hear particularly about a low cost to approach the emerging markets and to offer something for the smartphone user who is more price sensitive. >> hold on a second. if you think of low cost phones, they talked about strength in china. you can't have strength with low cost phones or strengths in emerging markets and not have it impact gross margins. what's more important to you? >> a low cost phone that maintains a margin. they'll need to move some of the product mix out, innovate and i think tvs. i think i radio. something along the lines of i payments. that's what will move the sentiment and move the needle financially. >> i kind of feel this company's pain. after watching the stock be down
apple will need to innovate. we're in that you got to believe me phase and now we're talking about a time line of the fall. we got support on the dividend and buyback but gross margins and innovation will be key. >> you thought that you would hear about new products even sooner than the fall? >> it was possible that you might hear particularly about a low cost to approach the emerging markets and to offer something for the smartphone user who is more price sensitive. >> hold...
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now apple tv? i think they will come out with a tv product because that is something that tim cook said. they've got an intense interest in that area. but i think that's probably coming in the summer period at some point. i think we're going to have to wait a while for a low-end phone. so i look at all of that and in the near term, the biggest excitement quite honestly is hopefully they move the dividend up when they report the quarter. better cash return. but that's kind of what i'm looking for. if they don't do that, the stock could go quite a bit lower and there is some talk that maybe they don't do the dividend when they report the quarter. >> we'll see. or repurchase. when you say "quite a bit lower," dan, what's low enough? here you compare it to rimm and nokia is a little shocking. but ere's low enough given the prospects you're outlining? >> well, but here's the thing. right? why are you guessing as to what's low enough? until the fundamentals stop getting worse -- don't forget, this compan
now apple tv? i think they will come out with a tv product because that is something that tim cook said. they've got an intense interest in that area. but i think that's probably coming in the summer period at some point. i think we're going to have to wait a while for a low-end phone. so i look at all of that and in the near term, the biggest excitement quite honestly is hopefully they move the dividend up when they report the quarter. better cash return. but that's kind of what i'm looking...
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. >> is facebook developing a phone device, like apple did iphone? >> no. we're working on building software that can be used on all phones. >> their latest product is messages, which combines email, cell phone texting, and instant messages into one. they call it the ultimate switchboard. so do you think email will become obsolete? no. >> i'm not sure. but what we've found is that more people are using messages-- are moving away from email. and so if we build a really compelling experience, i think people are going to switch over. but i'm not going to call the end of anything. >> was this directed at gmail? >> no. >> google's email? >> no. >> because everybody's talking about a gmail killer. >> it's certainly what everyone's writing about. >> google... >> yes. >> facebook and google. >> yes. >> are they on a collision course? >> they are indeed. >> the fight's over what? it's over how-- >> search. how people find, discovery, search. >> say you want to buy a car. you can type "prius" on google and get publicly available information. or you can type "prius" o
. >> is facebook developing a phone device, like apple did iphone? >> no. we're working on building software that can be used on all phones. >> their latest product is messages, which combines email, cell phone texting, and instant messages into one. they call it the ultimate switchboard. so do you think email will become obsolete? no. >> i'm not sure. but what we've found is that more people are using messages-- are moving away from email. and so if we build a really...
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last year they could have said it's all about apple. i think we need to broaden the horizons if this is going to be sustainable. >> let me go there and take you to a live shot of the white house. the white house is lowering their flag to half staff. flags are to be lowered at all public buildings until sunset on april 20th. there are at least three dead. more than 150 injured. this is echo of what we saw in the wake of 9/11. a lot more "squawk on the street" back in a moment. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. this is awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is, business pro. yes, it is. go national. go like a pro. >>> let's hop over to the cme. rick santelli is talking gold. >> you know, a couple of months ago we were talking about the notion of gold become securitized. it was much more of a
last year they could have said it's all about apple. i think we need to broaden the horizons if this is going to be sustainable. >> let me go there and take you to a live shot of the white house. the white house is lowering their flag to half staff. flags are to be lowered at all public buildings until sunset on april 20th. there are at least three dead. more than 150 injured. this is echo of what we saw in the wake of 9/11. a lot more "squawk on the street" back in a moment. [...
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>> apple. >> because it's an ipad. >> exactly. ipads there and other companies, google nexus is a big one. samsung has some coming down the line here. we'll diversify away from the ipad but intel is underrepresented there. >> what about these new half tablet, half pc things that are half clam shell but you can pull them apart. does intel have a chance to lead there? >> there are a number of factors. the one you're referring to is a convertible. they are really focused more on ultrabooks and sliders where you can actually slide the top display and flip it over and it turns into a tablet. >> they are expensive and haeav, right? >> some ultrabooks will be priced at 499 this year. that's a new low price point for them. >> the stuff with intel in that their bragging rights have to do with manufacturing process and how well they're doing there. is that a reason to buy the stock? when gross margins go up, i heard that you buy stock when margins are rising and sell it when they're going back down. are either one of those factors enough to offset what's happening in pcs? >> a sticking point wi
>> apple. >> because it's an ipad. >> exactly. ipads there and other companies, google nexus is a big one. samsung has some coming down the line here. we'll diversify away from the ipad but intel is underrepresented there. >> what about these new half tablet, half pc things that are half clam shell but you can pull them apart. does intel have a chance to lead there? >> there are a number of factors. the one you're referring to is a convertible. they are really...